Lurk all you want,lol. Another thing people forget is the loooongservice intervals the Yamaha's have for the valve adjustments. I have always noticed the high up keep of hardleys, and Euro bikes vrs the Japanese bikes. Probably why I've owned only Japanese bikes, my 2017 FZ10 is my 30th street bike since 1973. Cost of operating and maintenance is lower. It's your decision in the end though.